Emma Dent Coad responds....
Dear Dame
My usual response to trolling on social media is ‘one factual rebuttal and walk away’. However, the continued false accusations linking me to the decision on the refurbishment of Grenfell Tower has now lasted for six weeks, and a good friend has been physically attacked for defending me.
So here are some checkable facts which I hope will end this slander.
I joined the Board of the TMO in June 2008 and left in October 2012. Here is a link to the Board of Directors, also showing which Councillors were on it and when (nb Elizabeth Campbell was on the Board for a year):
During my tenure there had been numerous complaints about the condition of Grenfell Tower: broken lifts, draughty windows, poor insulation, and the heating and hot water system regularly breaking down.
In October 2012 (around the time I left the TMO) the then Cabinet Member Cllr Tim Coleridge announced that a major refurbishment would be undertaken. At the time the proposed contractor was Leadbitter. The scope of the work was agreed at the time, but the detail was to come. Link to press release:
In April 2013 responsibility for the project was handed over to the new Cabinet Member, Cllr Rock Feilding-Mellen.
It was not until January 2014 that the planning application was agreed (search for Grenfell Tower via this link):
In April 2014 it was announced by the Council and TMO that due to costs the contract had been awarded to Rydon rather than Leadbitter who had scoped the work. Note that this was AFTER the planning application was granted approval:
Throughout the summer amendments were made and detailed specifications decided. Cladding materials proposed at 1 July 2014:
There were several amendments during this period, which is not unusual in a project of this scale. Often the details of these are done by ‘delegated decision’, which means the final details and choice of materials is decided by officers and not the Planning Committee.
Then on 30 September 2014 ‘Condition 3’ was agreed by delegated decision; this related to the final choice of cladding:
Who made those decisions, advised by whom, and why, should be thoroughly scrutinised by the agencies tasked with the job of investigating these matters and allocating accountability, responsibility, blame and – we hope ultimately – guilt.
To be clear, I was on the Board when the principle of refurbishing Grenfell Tower was discussed, but I was nowhere near the decision-making process for the detailed specifications for refurbishing Grenfell which started when I left. Board members agreed the contract but do not specify cladding or indeed any other technical details. Neither should they.
Emma Dent Coad
MP for Kensington
EDC's statement pretty well confirms what one had gleaned from the press etc. She was not involved in the multiple agreements that lead to choosing the cheapest possible cladding and insulation for Grenfell that led to so many deaths.
ReplyDeleteShe is not at the heart of these issues. What appears on Facebook, twitter and the rest is anyone's guess. Best not to read any of it. However, while expressing their justifiable anger, the Dame's correspondents have hardly engaged in random accusations against EDF.
The historical issues remain. Why was a 24 storey residential tower without sprinklers; without alarms; without fire doors; without working water supplies for the fire brigade; without even directions signs to the sole fire exit? Instead a gas main was run up the fire exit. Gas was supplied to 125 flats by puncturing previously fire-proof flat walls. A fire- proof washer was needed for each pipe as it was put into a flat. If a standard washer was used, the fire protection of a flat was destroyed. People may have died for the cost of a fire-proof washer.
Over decades RBKC's contractors destroyed Grenfell's original "passive" fire protection system. In April there was a kitchen fire on the 17th floor in the similarly passively protected Trellick tower. It burned in one flat. The LFB put it out. No one was evacuated. No one hurt. Trellick is Listed. RBKC's contractors have been prevented from touching it, so Trellick remains safe.
Thorough investigation is needed and those responsible must be prosecuted.
Tell us Emma. Why did you send your children to a private boarding school
ReplyDeleteDoes it matter? If one can afford it, why not?
Delete13:24 it's public not private school, we're in Britain not the States. Back to school for you.
DeleteIt's private...ejit. Christ's Hospital is not a member of the Headmaster's Conference so it ain't a public school
DeleteSo why didn't the good hyphenated Member of Parliament send her kids to the local state comp.
DeleteShe's a socialist contradiction in terms by having her kids privately educated and by telling us all about her HIGH CLASS SPANNISH FAMILY. Socialists want a classless Society. I don't think the mouthy schoolteacher in Mormentum helping Grenfell will go much on Emma now
What has this got to do with EDC's involvement (or NOT) in decisions over the Grenfell Tower refurb?
DeleteShe has worked tirelessly for over a decade on behalf of disadvantaged north Kensington communities and is widely supported by council tenants - after all, by and large it was these people rather than the wealthier Kensington residents who voted her in.
Please don't try to distract from the serious business of holding to account RBK&C, TMO and whoever else was actually involved. The council, management of social housing estates and buildings regulation need a serious overhaul if we are to provide the housing people deserve and avoid more suffering and disaster.
@ 10.58 Emma Dent Coad has compromised all of her Socialist principles by having her children privately educated. She is perpetuating inequalities and creating the unjust and unequal society that she professes to hate so much.
DeleteIf she can sell out on the most basic of socialist principles equality, she could sell the Grenfell People down the river too.
What did she think she was doing, as a Socialist, talking about her HIGH CLASS background.
No she hasn't. Anonymous 13.15
DeleteWhat kind of a dimwit are you.
Anon 7.57 - Cos you lot cut all the money for state schooling - DOH !
Delete@ 14.42 and 14.44 I am not a Tory. I vote Labour but I don't like duplicitous insincere people who are not true to their Socialist principles. I suppose it was very dim of me to vote for Emma. Unlike, you I am being political not insulting.
DeleteShe's a hypocrit. It's OK for Labour MP's to send their kids to fee paying schools but no OK for anyone else. I would never have believed it of her.
DeleteTell us Victoria why don't you send your kids to a state school .
DeleteFeilding Mellon why don't you send you kids to a state school
DeleteHow many of the ConservatiVe Councillors send their kids to a state school in RBKC ? Who can blame EDC for wanting to get her kids a decent education. Very difficult to do in the state sector these days due to the draconian cuts by the 'Austerity ' Conservative Government.
DeleteConservative Councillors are the Hypocrites. Taking money for section 106 for affordable housing and leaving the 40 Million or so in the coffers . Social Cleansing . It like having a loaf of bread in front of a starving man and pretending you can't do anything to help. Shame on you Conservative Councillors
Delete@12.24, 12.25, 12.28. I love it when the Dent Coad woman's supporters do a rant for her.
DeleteIt is despicable of Emma Dent Coad to send her children to a fee paying school because she is perpetuating inequality and privilege by doing so. In short she is a rotten socialist for doing so. However, her actions confirm that state education is sh*t. If a sh*t education is not good enough for Emma's kids then it is not good enough for anyone's kids. I suppose Emma did not want her kids consigned to stacking shelves in Tesco which could have been an outcome of entrusting her children's education to the state.
WHY CONSERVATIVES ARE DIFFERENT
Conservatives, unlike the greatest Socialist from Chelsea, believe that inequalities are necessary for the development of society. Therefore,
Fielding Mellen, Borwick and other conservatives do not aspire to Emma's, higher, socialist, values because they actually want an unequal society. Emma is a vile hypocrite for talking the socialist talk but she knows that her kids would not get the "decent education" that she wants them to have in a state school. Nothing wrong with wanting a decent education for your children but if you are a Socialist it is very hypocritical to use your money to buy your children an advantage in life - something that the children of Grenfell will never experience.
All socialist models have a ruling elite do they not?
Delete21.05 Not necessarily. Dent Coad could not be admitted to any socialist oligarchy because she sent her kids to a fee paying school and because she is a high class lady from a very good family.
DeleteIt is sometimes usual for LABOUR members to send their children to FEE paying or SELECT schools; Diane Abbot, Tony Blair and of course Jeremy Corbyn received a a fee paying Grammar School education won on a scholarship, for which I believe he attained 2 A Levels at E Grade?
Delete20.05 Emma Dent Coad MP is in good company with the pseudo socialists you mention. You forgot to include Harriet Harman who sent her child over to the good Tory Council, Bromley, for secondary schooling, not trusting Labour Southwark to get it right.
DeleteMy spies tell me that Emma is crawling around Diane Abbot trying ever so much to get her approval. I don't know why because Diane Abbot is not a socialist, she is no more a socialist than Emma Dent Coad. She went full hog and paid Public School fees perpetuating an unjust system for her son's benefit. Just as Diane went full hog making racist remarks about white people. Remember, "West Indian mothers will go the wall for their kids". I suppose Diane would say, in her defence, that there are white West Indian mothers too. Remember her tweeting, "White people love to play divide and rule." Remember Diane referring to Cameron and Clegg as "two posh white boys." Why is Diane so obsessed with the colour of people's skin? I Remember her objecting to the recruitment of Finnish Nurses at her local hospital because they had never seen a black person before let alone touched one. Emma, get in with Dennis Skinner instead and learn from him how to build up your socialist credentials, no one has ever been able to take him to task for being a bad socialist. On the contrary, he is a good socialist.
13.24's comment is irrelevant. EDC is not my cup of tea, but sending children to a boarding school is hardly a crime. Those responsible for the Grenfell refurbishment are responsible for the worst fire in London since WWII. They are responsible for the deaths of at least 80 people. Please note the difference!
ReplyDeleteTell us 13:24 were you the person who assaulted Cllr Mason? Your kind of focused malice suggests it.
ReplyDeleteSorry this is OT but does anyone know what is going on with TMO CS? When I rang my call was handle by a male staff who was from another housing association. When my neighbour rang, the person who took the details was a female volunteer. Is this another cost cutting exercise? How do we know our data isn't compromised?
ReplyDeleteIt sounds as if TMO staff has left. So like the council, it's been taken over by others. From all we've heard so far, it can't possibly be worse. Councillors should know what's going on.
ReplyDeleteFOI request anyone?
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Channel 4 news, RBKC has just appointed a new Chair for the
ReplyDeleteKCTMO. No names mentioned. So that's all right then.
RBKC's Governance dept. will provide the name of the new Chair of KCTMO.
Simply phone 020 7937 5464 and ask for the dept.
Returning to the TV programme, there was a 30 minute discussion with an all female group of local residents, a couple of experts, EDC plus a male, Tory, west London Assembly member. No appearance from the government, RBKC or KCTMO of course. The women repeatedly stated the obvious. The KCTMO was and remains unresponsive to the needs of residents. On the wider issue of affordable public housing they all agreed it was a sham. Lone Tory kept telling them all they were wrong. End of debate.
GLA told the truth. Mayor Khan has the money to build thousands of cheap rent homes all over London which taxpayers can easily subsidise.
DeleteNever mind building new homes. RBKC can easily buy 100 flats with their reserves. Say each flat costing slightly less than £0.5M, the bill would still be £50M and RBKC will retain over £200M in reserve. Why don't they buy? They can certainly buy back the Sutton Estate for a start but they don't wonnu, do they? There are more new scandals going around but it hasn't come out yet. We'll see, it's never ending. Amazing!
DeleteWhat are you smoking? A flat in Kensington for £500k???? That hardly buys a garage space.......
DeleteYea but when the Council buy properties under a CPO - they buy it at a substantial discount . They only paid one leaseholder £147,000 for his 4 bed flat , can't the Council apply the same rules .https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/sep/20/aylesbury-estate-ruling-future-regeneration-sajid-javid
DeleteExcellent note from EDC. Anyone can make false accusations but then those accused can put the record straight. Its what social media is all about. We all get the accurate picture. Unlike newspapers and TV - impossible to correct fake news.
ReplyDeleteMore Councillors should wake up to the new world and blog their point of view
Like Trump using Twitter?
DeleteSure they can use twitter. And for Kensington and Chelsea matters, they should use the Hornet. Everyone reads it. Its a great way to link up, have a discussion/argument, keep in touch and put your point of view.
DeleteThe current Council in Hornton Street is completely disconnected from residents and hopelessly out of touch.
Like ' Fatty ' Palmer playing Candy Crush.
DeleteRBKC has no point of view. It's a headless monster scurrying around looking for a way out.
ReplyDeleteNames of wealthy empty-home owners in Kensington Chelsea
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/01/names-of-wealthy-empty-home-owners-in-grenfell-borough-revealed
"Empty homes: normal rules do not apply to super-rich in London"
Deletehttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/01/empty-homes-normal-rules-do-not-apply-to-super-rich-in-london
One law for the poor, another for the elites. ho hum
All hard-working tax-paying families should have a homeless unemployed family billeted into their home, just like Jeremy Corbyn and EDF say. This would double the population density at a stroke. Jeremy could call it the new National Domestic Service.
DeleteOr you could just 'burn ' them to death in an unregulated council property . As has happened at Grenfell.
DeleteRe: 'Just burn them' policy.
DeleteOf course, including hard-working taxpayers, you are nothing but inconvenience in the eye of....
One law for the rich another for the poor. The justice system is this Country is rigged. Hillsborough, Birmingham 6 etc etc . The enquiry will be dragged out as long as possible so those culpable , Rock Fielding Mellon, NPB , are too old or infirm to be sent to the nick for a very long time.Where have all the good people gone.
DeleteAnyone can make false statements and cause trouble - when will EDC apologise to Sir Moore-Bick for her uninformed rant? Or the (admittedly) few good Councillors who work hard for this Borough?
ReplyDeleteEDC can be a bit waspish. This is not the time for making Party political points. She should be trying to bring people together in North Kensington.
DeleteI think she's just being transparent and clear about her involvement . It would be so refreshing if the Conservative Councillors could do the same .
DeleteSoB, funny, no mention of Labour in EDC's statement only a request for VB to retract her statement.
DeleteGreat way to kill an argument about Conservatives involvement in Grenfell by stating one is making "party political points".
If the Dame thought EDC was making political points she would say.
Its not uninformed. Residents don't want him as he is not 'socially ' resident friendly . He sent that poor woman to Milton Keynes . A socially cleansing Judge - I don't know to be honest. But again Residents are being ignored just like they were when they were telling the Council Grenfell was a death trap. Council is carrying on like nothing happened. No more Social Cleansing in RBKC. Or are we in Germany in 1939. We know what happened there !
Delete@11:57 We might as well in Germany. Most of the people are killed by the same stuff e.g. cyanide.
DeleteDoes everyone believe what they read and what they are told, or can that be put down to years of RBKC/KCMTO run life?
ReplyDeleteElaine Elkington is the new interim Chief Exec of KCTMO. The TMO have announced it on their website. Her CV shows she doesn't stay anywhere long. No other TMO directors or Board members are named anywhere on the website, they are all in hiding. On a slightly different note, the former Board member Iain Smith was present in the public gallery at the full council meeting which elected the new Cabinet. Odd, considering many Grenfell survivors couldn't get into the building.
ReplyDeleteIt appears that she is not very popular. Just what KCTMO needed after RB. How is it that RBKC has a knack of employing these individuals?
Deletehttp://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/boss-of-grenfell-tower-management-company-labelled-crass-for-failing-to-mention-fire-in-first-a3601686.html
Yvette is right you know.How did she get selected?
DeleteFay Edwards said: "We've been very fortunate to secure the services of an outstanding housing professional.
for an outstanding TMO..............
Somehow I don't feel fortunate. Do you?
So Elaine Elkington is now boss cocky at the KCTMO and she doesn't, apparently, stay in a job for long. I suppose the Council/ TMO Board has to choose the best they can get from poor quality material.
DeleteThe KCTMO is a poisoned chalice and only someone desperate for a job would consider applying for a job in the place. In my experience, anyone who works at KCTMO or goes on its Board is from the bottom of the crap barrel.
Far from being false the remarks are too restrained. Dent Code carries a large measure of responsibility for Grenfell Tower. She should resign as an MP
ReplyDeleteHow?
DeleteHahahahhahhhaha
DeleteEDC carries no Grenfell hangover, its RFM and RBKC property and Planning plus the contractors and the stay inside policy, via the LFB, who are potentially, possibly the parties to the 'gross negligent manslaughter' of over 80 residents, time will tell.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. No hangover, sadly. Just enduring responsibility.
DeleteIt seems only leaseholders and tenants that have lived or continue to live under the rule KCTMO know the full extend of their negligence, avoidance and capability to debase all they comes into contact with. Shane may be able to give a few good examples.
DeleteWe need to know the salary of the new CEO at Hornton Street and also the new CEO at the TMO.
ReplyDeleteI am sure they will be in line with the other inflated RBKC salaries of those, was it not for local government, would be nemployed and most probably unemployable - passing their time in the LGA swamp, waiting for a new opportunity. It is the unpublished add ons you must also consider and the endless opportunities to 'help' for a consideration - you decide what that may be.
DeletePerhaps Ms Dent Coad rather than constantly telling us all what she did not do could explain what she has done since taking office. What has she done for the businesses and residents of Earls Court who have to tolerate dirt, dust and 24 hour work from Capcos site, and when people complain of dirt and dust the response from Environmental Health at RBKC was that there is no issue at all and that people who live in the likes of Eardley Crescent are all just dirty people
ReplyDeleteSo Miss Dent Coad rather than tell us all what you didn't do when will you tell us what you have done and what you intend to do for this borough , instead of just speaking to the media like our useless Mayor of London ?
I think she may have been a bit busy with The Grenfell disaster .She was in the job 4 days . Think your remarks need to be aimed at Victoria Borwick and all the other Tory Mps who have run the Borough for their own ends for years.
DeleteNo one has so far considered the roles of the mamy solicitors, RBKC employees, directly or a nice 'retainer', just in case the in-house lot gets stuck. You know, arranging to publish important notices 'just in time' on page 99 of a local rag. Manipulating all sorts of legal processes, 'sailing very close to the wind'...etc, you get the drift. What had been the role of say our deat, illustrious, self-important chief solicitor, Ms Leverne Parker and her troops?
ReplyDeleteCover up in process.
DeleteKCTMO's residents' conference not just postponed, but cancelled. Does that mean the AGM is cancelled? And does that mean there are no Board elections or "test of opinion" as to whether the the TMO continues to manage RBKC's homes or not? Where's democracy?
ReplyDeleteIt should be obvious by now that we don't live in a democratic society. They want you to believe but the reality is nothing but. Look at planning. It looks as though you have a say in it but they completely ignore you.
DeleteMoore Bick = Kangaroo Court .
DeleteI am a TMO tenant and have not received any notification of the AGM being cancelled. In fact, I have expressed an interest to the TMO for standing as a candidate for the board of governors, on 2 August. No response so far. I have been in touch with some of the funding members of the TMO, and I believe it should be possible to restore the original cooperative-like governance processes which they had put in place, to replace the current governance inspired from the private sector taste for secrecy and cosy arrangements. For Freedom of Information requests, use www.whatdotheyknow.com
DeleteDespite your best intentions, experience shows there is no chance of cooperation, KCTMO simply do not not have the experience or expertise to manage property, KCMTO SHOULD GO
DeleteRBKC/KCTMO are all tied up together - the councillors have a far to close relationship with the council. Councillors are there to protect the people from the council authority as an intermediary - but its just not working.
DeleteDefinition of the role:
Councillors are elected to the local council to represent their local community, so they must either live or work in the area. Becoming a councillor is both a rewarding and privileged form of public service. You will be in a position to make a difference to the quality of other people's daily lives and prospects.
I think that the Dame's concerns are bit OTT. It may be perhaps prudent to remove comments about their 'prowess', which may be unjustifiable, unless you were the unfortunate recipient of these noxious advances. It seems they are desperately trying to remove any information about their long stints at RBKC, therefore unlikely they will draw attention to events during their tennure, which they are trying to forget. But, should they bring any action, it will be up to them to prove that what has been published are downright LIES. Very hard to do, under the circumstances. Don't forget that it is not that easy to go incognito, when their faces are strewn on the web.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteKCTMO Website:
Residents' conference update
Apologies to all residents who were planning to attend, but because of the tragic fire at Grenfell Tower the residents' conference scheduled for 16 September has been cancelled.
August 02, 2017
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Thanks for this. It is an example of inefficient governance, by publishing what I call a PASSIVE statement, as it is incumbent on tenants & leaseholders to go & check the TMO website, rather than the TMO ACTIVELY informing us via letters or emails. This decision has been made with no consultation whatsoever, probably out of fear of us peasants revolting. Nevertheless, I shall not forget!
DeleteIt's just a 9-5 job for all those workers at KCTMO/RBKC but their wholesale incompetence causes a lifetime of loss and extra work for those whose lives are dictated to and run by both bureaucracies.
DeleteI do not understand why Ms Dent Code does not to accept that all councillors are collectively responsible for the tragedy at Grenfell Tower. If this were a public company rather than a public body all the directors would share collective responsibility.
ReplyDeleteEffectively the Councillors like directors and must share collective responsibility. In the case of Ms Dent Code her responsibility is greater than most Councillors. She served on the board of the TMO and was on the relevant scrutiny Committee of the Council. She was responsible at all relevant times even though she resigned before the policies that she discussed (or should have discussed) were carried out. The Council meeting records show her as having welcomed the refurbishment of Grenfell Tower. The fact that she now says that she did not ask the questions she should have asked does not excuse her from responsibility. It is time for Ms Dent Code to move on, stop trying to persuade people that she, as a councillor, member of the relevant scrutiny committee and a member of the board of the TMO has not the slightest responsibility for Grenfell Tower and start doing the job for which she was elected.
Don't understand the above...
Delete9.01 states the reality of the situation. EDC cannot distance herself from Grenfell. No one who served as a councillor or senior officer in the last 15 years can do so.
DeleteEDC is not likeable, but the reality is that responsibility for the fire is so widespread, finding another, similarly experienced local MP will be impossible. She's certainly not untainted by Grenfell, but she understands the issues and is visible. No one from RBKC or KCTMO is seen anywhere. Except E Campbell and she's never even been inside a council tower block. All she does is mouth platitudes provided by her resident-funded PR office. Useless.
As for the cancelled KCTMO meeting in September, the most likely reason is that it has no one to run it. They've all abandoned ship. KCTMO is drifting rudderless in a hurricane. Just like RBKC.
EDC is blameless. VB and the ruling Conservative administration are responsible.
DeleteRock Fielding Mellon as he was responsible for requesting they change the cladding to save 5k . 15 Years please . 80 Deaths ( probably nearer 200 allegedly ) . Blood on your hands .
Delete11,54 as far as i know EDC has been very critical of RFM and his works, best not deflect where real criticism best legally lies. Rbkc has been run for the interests, politically, financially, career wise, of senior Conservative cllrs and their choosen Officers and TMO staff, it is they not EDC that created this racket that so tragically lead directly to Grenfell... You may for very good reasons dislike EDC but she is not named ad one of the 60 core suspects, that range from Government ministers (regs) RBKC Cllrs (Key controlling mind) Rbkc officers (Key responsibilities, inc fire brigade access) KCTMO (Key responsibilities, inc inspection ) Contractors (Key responsibilities, access for L. F. B, inc inspection) L. F. B (inspection, access, stay inside policy). These 60 people are named, inc senior RBKC cllrs, only one is Labour, Cllr Blakeman. EDC is not a legal party to Grenfell. Hope that helps.
DeleteWhere are these 60 names?
Delete@Resident3 August 2017 at 11:54
DeleteIf there is no body to organise the AGM, let residents organise it. After all, it was meant to be a resident-lead organisation.
Who insures RBKC - Is it Lloyds of London . If so are any current Councillors -Lloyds Names ?
ReplyDeleteLightfoot has to get his collar felt for stashing all the dosh - and failing in his fiduciary duties. Corpoate Manslaughter.
ReplyDeletePaget Brown as he was the leader - 8 Years.
ReplyDeleteColeridge has to do some time -allegedly pursuing a policy of Social cleansing according to some dinner party mates of his .
ReplyDeleteLets be quite clear . The incumbents of the Ruling Conservative group have been pursuing a policy of social cleansing for years - the BBC confirmed it . We will not rest until those responsible are behind bars . Lets hope they are now not pursuing a policy of disaster Capitalism , like they did in New Orleans . Justice for The Dead please.
ReplyDeleteI am afraid that EDC could well be prosecuted as well. That is why she is so edgy.
ReplyDelete12,43 don't think you know legally what you're on about, EDC is not a named party to Grenfell, prior to the tragic fire, during the rescue, or events after. However many Cllrs are.
DeleteSorry to disappoint EDC supporters - there are NO innocent bystander. The police has said 'corporate manslaughter' and that means 'one for all and all for one' amen
ReplyDeleteThe Land is Ours - A landrights campaign for Britain
ReplyDeletehttp://tlio.org.uk/the-grenfell-inquiry-must-feel-the-collars-of-the-developers-carving-up-our-cities/
Issues
ReplyDeleteEmma is right to put as much distance between her and the decisions over Grenfell Tower refurbishment. However, she has done the dirty by:-
1) Compromising her Socialist principles by paying for children's education. In doing so she is ensuring that her children obtain advantages, privileges and fair better in the unjust and unequal society that has existed since capitalism was devised. Is she a woman of integrity?
2) As she has sold out on Socialism, will she sell out Grenfell Tower residents as well?
3) I have read about her membership of the TMO Board for four years. Why didn't she resign from the Board and mount a campaign to consign tenant management to the bin
You are a bit nuts...
Delete@9.25 If Pat Berryman is "nuts" please tell us why he or she is "nuts." It is not nutty to criticise Emma Dent Coad. Pat has mentioned the issues and I think expulcated Emma Dent Coad over the suggestions made by some that she was involved in Grenfell refurbishment. This strikes me as balanced.
DeleteI was on the TMO with Emma. She wasn't bad. She made a point when she wanted to. She didn't want the TMO to go down the pan because she didn't want the flats sold to private landlords. That's why she was a good friend to the TMO. You can ask Maighread if you don't believe me
DeletePat Berryman the Fortis Green/ Harringay Labour Councillor?
DeleteIs it true that EDF is to seek re-election to the Council next May despite being our MP?
ReplyDeleteLabour MP's criticise Tory MP's for having two jobs. They reckon it's not possible to do two jobs at the same time especially as being an MP is a full time job in itself - with, would you believe, not a moment to spare. Is Emma Dent Coad's capacity for work so much greater than any other Labour MP? She doesn't strike me as being super woman in terms of stamina or the quality of excitement and piquancy.
DeleteAs most Labour MP's have never worked on a building site or as a heavy manual worker, what would they know from their experiences of the Westminster talking shop, and tapping away on computers in their SW1 offices, about anyone's capacity to do two jobs?
Labour held Rifkind up to ridicule for saying that no one can manage on an MP's salary. It seems that Emma agrees. She does not want give up the most generous expenses' allowance payable to councillors anywhere in the UK.
Come on Emma resign and let someone else in the Labour Party take over in Golborne or are you the only person who can represent Golborne Ward? If you don't wana give up Golborne, resign from Parliament because Atkinson wants to step in to your shoes.
I'm no fan of EDC, but her long experience of RBKC may prove useful in the next year or so. Since Grenfell, the council is politically and morally bankrupt. Cllr E Campbell and her so-called "cabinet" must go. Replacements will be elected next year. In the meantime a few experienced councillors of whatever political hue will be needed to ensure the engine ticks over. Quirk, RBKC's new Town Clerk, worked for a week before taking a holiday. Useless. He too should go. We need fresh faces at all levels.
Delete@17.53 No, if you are Labour you should stick to your principles and not hold down one job on the Council and another one in the Commons. Labour says you can't do both of thsse jobs properly. They don't say that you can do both jobs properly if your name's Emma Dent Coad- super woman.
DeleteOr is the nub of this that the Labour Party doesn't like Tory MP's making tens of thousands of pounds with their Directorships, Consultant and Advisory roles. Politics of envy because Labour MP's lack the talent to make the sort of money that the Tories do.
17.53 is an apologist for EDC.
Delete17.53 is nothing of the kind. EDC is neither an attractive personality, nor are her politics attractive. However, she has the advantage of not being a tory, so is not subject to the tory whip. Her experience and competence in matters relating to the proper conduct of council business are needed at this terrible time. She should continue in post until the next local election. In other words, she knows how things should work. She also knows where various Hornton Street skeletons are hidden. At a moment like this, her freedom to speak may prove helpful. That is all.
Delete@22.50 How effective was EDC at "ensuring the proper conduct" of the TMO when it f*cked tenants over for the four year and half year period that she was on it. Excuse me but I'd rather not have EDC with all of her experience. She knew how the TMO should work and because it worked so badly, we got Grenfell.
DeleteVirtually nothing run by RBKC was ever run for residents' benefit. A few minor departments managed to escape this general rule. RBKC has been a racket for decades. Its rotten "cabinet" and governance systems are a sick joke. There's a rigorous written council constitution. It's broken daily by councillors and officers alike. All RBKC councillors carry collective responsibility for Grenfell, but apparently cannot be forced to resign en masse. So despite her personal share in RBKC's corporate responsibility, EDC's knowledge and experience of RBKC will be of more use to Grenfell victims than an empty chair.
Delete21.23 ' lack the talent to make the sort of money that the Tories do ' You mean like the decision to change the cladding at Grenfell for the sake of 5 k .Why don't you walk out the room and come back when you've had a reality check. The borough has been run as a fiefdom by the Conservatives for years and look at the state it's in - Failed Politicians - Failed Council . Failed Residents.
Delete@16.10 False economies of scale with the materials used for the Grenfell refurbuishment is not the same as Cllr Dent Coad MP holding down two jobs, one in Parliament and one on the Council, when the Labour Party condemns such practices because it is impossible to manage any other job properly on top of parliamentary duties.
DeleteThe REALITY is Labour Party hypocrisy- Labour does not like individuals, whether it is Council tenants or Tory MP's, making large sums of money. Of course, I condemn those responsible for using inferior materials on Grenfell Tower but Dent Coad is a power crazy hypocrite who has a big ego and does not think any other person could do the job on the Council as well as she does. There'll be tears before bedtime.
I am not a Labour Councillor in Harringay. I am Labour and live in the so called wealthy bit of Kensington.
ReplyDeleteThe council is the responsible body and the responsibility is collective EDC should remember this. there is no point in her arguing that the minority party has no say. If EDC or anyone else has evidence of blame give it to the police or the inquiry, and stop trying to make political capital out of this tragedy, and stop whipping up public anger before there is another tragedy. There are many around the Borough going quietly about their daily business helping those affected it would be more beneficial if EDC and those baying for blood took a leaf out of their book and channeled their energies in a more positive direction before their actions tarnish all those involved.
ReplyDeleteEDC is making political capital out of this tragedy. The nasty Tories fault. Why didn't she do something to get rid of the TMO.
DeleteWell said. Ms Dent Coad is trying to make political capital out of her constituents misery rather than showing some positive leadership. She should change or go.
Delete08.34 Emma wouldn't make political capital out of Grenfell, would she? She kept the TMO going because the interests of Labour trumped the misery inflicted on tenants.
DeleteI think Ms Coad might wish she had not asked the Dame to post this blog. Only in post for two months and already her unpopularity grows by the day.
DeleteShe is not popular. Never was. She got the sack as Leader of the Labour Group on the Council. The popular Atkinson took over.
DeleteVirtually nothing run by RBKC was ever run for residents' benefit. A few minor departments managed to escape this general rule. RBKC has been a racket for decades. Its rotten "cabinet" and governance systems are a sick joke. There's a rigorous written council constitution. It's broken daily by councillors and officers alike. All RBKC councillors carry collective responsibility for Grenfell, but apparently cannot be forced to resign en masse. So despite her personal share in RBKC's corporate responsibility, EDC's knowledge and experience of RBKC will be of more use to Grenfell victims than an empty chair.
Delete12.02. I cannot see that Emma Dent Coad will cut the mustard for Grenfell victims. She has never cut the mustard for anyone else not even local Labour Councillors when she was in charge.
DeleteShe did for the voters .
Delete@16.06 Cllr. Dent Coad MP was on the Radio 4 Today Programme last week. She was held to account for her support of those demanding that Martin Moore-Bick stand down from the Grenfell Inquiry Team. Dent Coad justified her decision by saying that she took her lead by listening to those whom she represents and that she always done this. By listening to the mob Emma deflected the criticism that could be laid at her door for trying to see off a very capable man who would get to the truth of the matter albeit not in the biased left wing way that she wants. As Dent Coad supports mob rule, why didn't she support those who demanded that the TMO should be abolished. She selectively listens but only to those who agree with her.
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DeleteCouncillor Dent Coad MP was there when 500+ people revolted against the TMO in 2009. Why didn't see listen and ensure that the TMO was shafted. After all she takes her lead from those she represents and always has. Instead, she allowed the TMO to f*ck over people until Grenfell when she then maraculously decided to speak out.
Emma had an epiphany about the TMO when Grenfell Tower went up and 80+ people died.
DeleteCllr Malcolm Spalding: Bananaman and the Disasterplan
ReplyDeletehttps://thisisnorthkensington.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/cllr-malcolm-spalding-bananaman-and-the-disasterplan/
To sum up, Dent Coad has totally failed to make her case for not being part of the decision making process on the TMO and Grenfell. The title of this Blog 'False Accusation' is not appropriate. Dame should change it.
ReplyDelete"Council failed to operate emergency plan on night of fire"
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/GLuzeK7LccI
"Empty Estate That Could House Grenfell Families" (LBC)
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So who is telling the truth? The Council or the resident?
ReplyDelete£1000 bribe money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ32tQAb1Y0
Yet the Council's reply for FOI says...
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/payment_for_grenfell_tower_lease#incoming-1017215
Victoria Borwick has every right to make a clarion all to those attending the Carnival to behave themselves. Emma Dent Coad should put a sock in her big, hypocritical mouth. Everyone is sick to death of the violence and bad behaviour at the Carnival. It's a fact that the vast majority of the troublemakers don't even come from the Borough. Just shut up Dent Coad and stop telling us what to think.
ReplyDeleteWhy would VB think that anyone is North Kensington would be prepared to listen to her.
ReplyDeleteElephant Killer.
ReplyDeleteand now want's to be ' Carnival Killer ' - move the event to Hyde Park no doubt so one of her mates can make shedloads out of ticket pricing etc . Leave the Carnival alone it ain't your's, so bog off !
ReplyDeleteYes good idea. Ms Coad says don't worry about making the Carnival peaceful and respectful. After all what do a few stabbings or the odd disembouling matter. I quite agree.
DeleteCan't she pop off to the US on Campbells' yacht if she doesn't like the Carnival.
ReplyDeleteR B K C = Ridiculous Blah Keep Coming
ReplyDeleteEmma Dent Coad MP doesn't think like a socialist. She is more of a sloganist.
ReplyDeleteHear, Hear. She is a "sloganist' alright. An MP tells me that she is desperate to be "in" with Abbot and Corbyn. She's ambitious, I'll give her that.
DeleteVB did not advocate moving the carnival or cancelling it all she appealed for was those attending the carnival to behave themselves. Her sentiments are also the sentiments of many of the locals in North Kensington. It seems no matter what anyone does there will always be a faction ready to denigrate. EDC is now the MP and she needs to start working for all of Kensington and stop using every opportunity to distance herself from the Grenfell tower tragedy. She is a member of the council and can produce all the paperwork she likes but there is nothing she can provide that as a member of the council will absolve her of her responsibility to the tragic people of Grenfell Tower. She should shut up stop whining and get on with the job she was elected to do. For the record like the Dame I am apolitical.
ReplyDeleteyes but the problem is that Dent Code knows she is not up to the job. That is why she hides behind a fog of saying how awful everyone else is. She is not even making a pretence of doing the job. She needs to go and to go now.
DeleteWhy has the council outsourcing it's Grenfell responsibility to Action for Children and why is it creating two competing teams?
ReplyDeleteHaven't the residents experienced enough already. Why can't this borough engage logically and coherently on Grenfell.
@ 01:03 How do you know what seems like a complete shamble is actually by design?
DeleteBecause officers are working their arses off seven days a week 15 hours a day.
Delete@21:31 If what you are saying is true, it wouldn't had to reach such state if TMO had done their job properly in the first place. Nobody had to die either. But working 15hrs p/d 7 days a week? Hard to believe. Can someone who live close to the offices, please report back if you've seen people coming in and out of the office during the out of hours?
DeleteA Bigger picture about Gren fell.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/4osZQk3yA-8?t=2m22s
If you want everybody to be guilty, then no one will be guilty and the real villains, such as Rock Feilding-Mellen, will then escape prosecution.
ReplyDelete8 weeks on, only 14 families have been housed.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=167EqLOu2S0
Of those that have been housed aren't quite living in their home either because they haven't received the delivery of white goods.
The council has prioritised the bereaved families. This process takes time.
DeleteMany residents unwilling to leave hotels partly because they are eating hotel meals and claiming £300 p/w and cash on top to pay for travel. Now as a family of 4 there is a clear incentive to stay in a decent hotel free of charge claiming £1200 p/w. As soon as they move into temporary accommodation or permanent they lose this payment as they'll have cooking facilities. This is one of the main reasons residents are still in hotels.
Likewise the council has basically said to category A residents that they can move when they want, where they want and into what they want. This raised expectation means that resident are far fussier (as is their new right) about what they'll move into, many are ready to wait it out until they get the perfect property offer.
Further difficulties arise from families splitting. It's amazing how many people lived in 1, 2, 3 bed units. Some families are 9/10+ families of adults including assortment of partners and relatives who claim to live in properties. Many of these families are taking the opportunity to split into 4/5 units of 1&2 bed flats. Increased fresh start grants, increased benefits, social rents and properties for adult relatives who'd never have stood a hole in hell of getting anything off of RBKC.
To be honest it's a free for all with ever shifting sands. If it's not the leader and deputy making policy up in public and on the not it's the government.
Housing officers are being run ragged by elected officials and understandably there is a cohort of residents who are taking thorough advantage to the detriment of existing residents on the housing register.
And as we all know human beings hate missing out. If your neighbours are rinsing the system, it's only human nature not to want to be left out of the free for all.
who owns Kensington Row flats (data)? More than 500 referred to mental health (100 children)
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I've seen supercars, Bentley with Qatar number plates...that kind of...
Do you think the brick wall lookalike cladding of Kensington Row building is safe? Just to reassure you, they've used this insulation, I've seen it while it was built. http://www.xtratherm.com/products/safe-r
The council now has a statutory duty to all the survivors to ensure their well-being for now and for the future. Let us not forget that they have been through hell and were nearly killed, probably through corporate manslaughter. They deserve everything they get to help them overcome this terrible event.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the sentiments expressed, but there is no Act of parliament that confers a statutory duty on the council for the current and future wellbeing of the victims of Grenfell, there are a number Acts that give and protect their rights in various situations.
DeleteElaine Elkington was replaced by Doug Goldring on 1st March 2018
ReplyDeleteDoug Goldring
Director of Housing Management
The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea
Purple Zone, Second Floor | Town Hall, Hornton Street, London, W8 7NX
Tel: 020 7361 2155
Doug.goldring@rbkc.gov.uk
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