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Tuesday, 20 June 2017

CLADDING APPROVED BY PLANNING DEPT

Dear Dame

 I found this interesting page from original 2012 refurbishment Grenfell Tower application.

 It quite clearly shows that the decision on the type of cladding was in the hands of the Planning Dept at that time run by Jonathan Bore.
Yours sincerely
(name withheld)

Bore









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22 comments:

  1. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 17:45

    I knew not just top of the TMO executives but planning and the council staff would have to be charged for manslaughter.

    Look at this. Yet, nothing from our Council. ho hum.
    "Sheffield City Council have announced they will be fitting sprinklers in ALL tower blocks in the city as extra reassurance for residents."

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  2. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 17:50

    Jail whoever approved it!

    It is illegal in UK.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/818416/Grenfell-Tower-fire-London-cladding-illegal-UK-Philip-Hammond

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    1. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 11:07

      Hammond got that wrong .

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    2. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 11:14

      Basically a lack of due diligence and duty of care from The Council. I may be wrong but isn't it the job of elected representative's to scrutinize the decisions made by officers and council staff . Both sets of parties are culpable in my opinion.

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  3. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 17:52

    What did the Council think it was doing approving cladding materials which are banned in America?

    What did the TMO think it was doing specifying unsuitable materials for use in a capital works' project.

    Culpability must be established.

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    1. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 20:24

      Banned in Germany too!

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    2. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 11:10

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/15/cladding-in-2014-melbourne-high-rise-blaze-also-used-in-grenfell-tower

      And Australia

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    3. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 11:11

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-latest-london-cladding-banned-us-flammable-a7792711.html

      And USA

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  4. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 18:34

    Are any specialist professionals available? It seems these planning conditions may refer only to appearances, invariably RBKC's priority. There must be additional, specific building regulations ensuring that building materials are fire-proof. One always understood that building regs. trump planning department decisions. In addition, despite the now proven danger of using plastic filled cladding, the failure to install fire barriers at each floor further heightened the danger. There was nothing to stop flames rising. This may have occurred at Grenfell, with tragic consequences.

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    1. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 20:28

      Planning and Enviromental health departments culpable! Interesting to see who will resign after this.

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    2. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 21:03

      Resign? Surely you must have meant who will be jailed?

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    3. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 10:51

      I am pretty sure the Planning laws deal only with external visual appearance - fire safety is Building Control, whose application files are not available for public scrutiny.

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    4. Anonymous23 June 2018 at 00:13

      Exactly this, I am a planning officer and I am advised that we cannot duplicate something which is the statutory responsibility of another department - in this instance an approved building inspector be it private or otherwise.

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  5. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 21:09

    Public meeting with all the Council gang, representatives from all the organisation and leaders from the community.
    Lancaster Road, this thursday @7pm Be there!

    https://youtu.be/4-qytuqOXlY?t=3m12s

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  6. Anonymous20 June 2017 at 21:29

    Where in Lancaster Road? Even under the current appalling circumstances, will the Tory councillors meet members of the public?

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  7. SadBadger21 June 2017 at 11:51

    The cladding was installed merely to improve the 'appearance' of the tower, as it allegedly looked rather drab when compared to the newly and brightly clad Academy. What is not clear is WHO actually COMPLAINED about this eyesore? Or, was it just an idea, leading to someone getting a sizeable commission on the job? RAYDON, the contractors should be FULLY AUDITED by INDEPENDENT firm

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  8. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 12:26

    https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/projects/contracts/rydon-in-line-for-65m-west-london-housing-job/10020892.article

    Raydon awarded £65 Million contract in Ealing .

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  9. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 17:19

    Residents, the Grenfell Action Group (GAG) vigorously objected to the dangers of the cladding prior to installation. They provided a full report on its dangers to RBKC. The Council responded by sending a solicitor's letter threatening GAG with litigation unless the report etc was removed from the GAG website. Grenfell residents knew for years that they lived in a deathtrap. There was a link to, I think, an Independent online article about this a few days ago on this blog. Please just scroll down a dozen threads and you'll find it. It makes blood-chilling reading.

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  10. SadBadger21 June 2017 at 17:55

    this may be of interest: RBKC wanted to DEMOLISH the tower; they torched it instead and get insurance payout. nice one, there....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2dax8UyBbM

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  11. Anonymous21 June 2017 at 18:32

    Surely this cannot be true? It's unthinkable even in the Rotten Borough. It would be mass-murder. This is surely the sort of stuff put on the internet in the absence of any solid and reliable public information. However, criminal neglect leading to manslaughter, does seem likely.

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  12. Anonymous22 June 2017 at 08:14

    Jonathan Bore is now causing controversy as a planning inspector http://www.midsussextimes.co.uk/news/politics/planning-inspector-states-impartiality-as-he-knows-new-market-town-director-1-7708388

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