tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post8560753371164613099..comments2024-03-19T13:27:52.554+00:00Comments on FTHN: From the Hornets Nest: DRAINING A SWAMP OF LIESUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-55442590555627113622017-07-06T15:06:40.286+01:002017-07-06T15:06:40.286+01:00@14:31 You are quite right about asbestos being ha...@14:31 You are quite right about asbestos being harmless if left alone but in inferno it turned into asbesto dusts which were released into the surrounding environment. As for the windows, even if they still had metal window flames, the heat from the climbing inferno would have broke the glass and fire would have got inside. Do not believe BBC documentaries. They are the ones reported that WTC7 collapsed while it stood behind the reporter. In Panorama, 'victims' have said the fire was extinguished i.e. contained in No.16 flat and firemen were leaving. Well, which statements that are floating about correct?anti-organised crimenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-85284080094514373232017-07-06T14:31:40.014+01:002017-07-06T14:31:40.014+01:00The thing is whilst asbestos if disturbed can be d...The thing is whilst asbestos if disturbed can be deadly , I know my father died from mesothelioma, if left alone it wont hurt you. the irony is that old metal windows and asbestos will have been removed from Grenfell , replaced by plastic coated windows etc had the metal windows and asbestos all still been in place the fire would probably not have travelled as it did internally . Fire officers have stated this about blocks in general during a BBC documentary some time ago about blocks being modernised and the original fire protection disappearing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-36250305248185349172017-07-06T12:33:46.572+01:002017-07-06T12:33:46.572+01:00Tenants ignored as Haringey privatises £2bn of cou...Tenants ignored as Haringey privatises £2bn of council property<br /><br />https://youtu.be/w1oGD2pukmM<br /><br />If this doesn't look like a social cleansing....I don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-43071379986603186672017-07-05T20:59:17.212+01:002017-07-05T20:59:17.212+01:00Perhaps our Dame should submit an FOI Request to t...Perhaps our Dame should submit an FOI Request to the Housing Minister as to the composition of the 'Task Force', their remit and statutory powers, if any....<br />Or, maybe the Grenfell Action Group should do this too? They have Pro Bono lawyers giving advice, so this is one subject to get into... More people ask, more uncomfortable it will become and less lies will be told.... maybe....SadBadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348733771308984062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-91445428917320868162017-07-05T17:44:18.901+01:002017-07-05T17:44:18.901+01:00Lendlease and co. are precisely the kind of people...Lendlease and co. are precisely the kind of people we really don't need at a time like this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-533540813199986032017-07-05T17:43:28.392+01:002017-07-05T17:43:28.392+01:00Not surprising. Any tower block of that vintage is...Not surprising. Any tower block of that vintage is likely to have building materials and components containing asbestos. And the TMO policy on asbestos has always been "leave it alone and it'll be okay" so ... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-5320675381558499192017-07-05T16:53:46.744+01:002017-07-05T16:53:46.744+01:00A tory sanctioned task force. pffffffft. Tim Burke...A tory sanctioned task force. pffffffft. Tim Burke writes:<br /><br />"Southwark cleared out 1100 social housing homes in Heygate Est. <br />Landlease, the new owner, built 2700 new flats, only 87 'affordable...<br />Southwark Council’s project manager for the Elephant & Castle regeneration left to work for Lend Lease. <br />Previously, the council’s communications manager for the project also quit to go and work for Lend Lease. <br />Southwark Council has also spawned some of the local lobbying industry’s leading lights. <br />Even the former leader of Southwark, Jeremy Fraser, joined one of the biggest lobbyists in the business, Four Communications."<br /><br />Dig, Badgers, Hornets, dig deep please and discover more about the saviours heading towards RBKC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-69226798191706044732017-07-05T16:50:19.049+01:002017-07-05T16:50:19.049+01:00I know the hornets readers like asbestos news... s...I know the hornets readers like asbestos news... so here it goes. Whether you trust the statement or not is up to you.<br />https://www.inspectas.co.uk/public-health-advice-following-grenfell-tower-fire/?utm_content=bufferd92f6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffera neighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-4263253115258511482017-07-05T16:14:02.486+01:002017-07-05T16:14:02.486+01:00Yes, agree.. A Task Force is on its way - assist i...Yes, agree.. A Task Force is on its way - assist in housing etc. Group without any legal clout. Me thinks that had the Council been Labour, rather than famous and staunchly Tory, the government's response would have been completely different... <br />This is nothing but Tories covering up for their kin.... as they say, 'birds of feather flock together'... And they all swim together like drunken toads in the stinking swamp, mentioned above....SadBadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348733771308984062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-71962209890865238522017-07-05T15:51:05.623+01:002017-07-05T15:51:05.623+01:00I believe they didn't even submit a planning p...I believe they didn't even submit a planning permission application for the demolition. Papers were only submitted to the building control. I believe if you were to do it properly, you'd have to submit papers to both planning permission AND building control.Still nauseatednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-62352652795898999922017-07-05T15:06:39.936+01:002017-07-05T15:06:39.936+01:00Holding on to that "80+" figure is likel...Holding on to that "80+" figure is likely to prove very counter-productive very soon. <br /><br />The real figure for the dead and missing presumed dead is higher. Anyone paying attention has already worked that out. If it's true that the Moroccan embassy is aware of 42 families unaccounted for that's 100+ people right there. <br /><br />It's all just going to smell like a cover up. <br /><br />And that is precisely why many people are losing trust in anything the Council or government do - if they can't be honest about the number of people that have most probably perished then it's unlikely they can be very honest about anything else. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-25300407955660216932017-07-05T13:19:07.356+01:002017-07-05T13:19:07.356+01:00If RBKC's planning documents have survived. It...If RBKC's planning documents have survived. It's not unknown for officers to make them disappear from the website or paper files. This, despite the fact that the destruction of the public record is a serious criminal offence. <br /><br />It has long been said that rather than using mortar to build RBKC's red brick town hall; it was corruption. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-64482704870552462762017-07-05T12:52:05.757+01:002017-07-05T12:52:05.757+01:00a new and a serious aspect of the disaster has eme...a new and a serious aspect of the disaster has emerged: The safety and fire approval of he Academy's location. It is a known fact that this has been a very contentious argument and those with personal vested financial interests, pushed it through as hard they could. <br />The problem is apparently with the Western aspect of the Academy, which is very, very close to the Grenfell Tower. <br />Was an application in 2014 to 'demolish' the Tower, just made to satisfy the safety and fire requirement at the planning stage... when this was pushed through, demolished was swiftly forgotten.... It should be interesting to get all the relevant design and planning documents and see the 'time line' - when did the 'demolition; raise its head?SadBadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348733771308984062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-83928351383429821432017-07-05T12:45:22.163+01:002017-07-05T12:45:22.163+01:00Yes, dear human beings - the swamp is a fetid, bot...Yes, dear human beings - the swamp is a fetid, bottomless abyss. All of the Councillors and staff were well aware of what was going on... Some were involved, some just knew... They are all guilty... of what is now called 'social/ethnic' cleansing of North Kensington.<br />The swamp must be drained and replaced with new stock.... properly vetted and elected...SadBadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348733771308984062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-66579693079278329792017-07-05T12:38:14.264+01:002017-07-05T12:38:14.264+01:00Oh, I think the claim is that 80+ have been IDENT...Oh, I think the claim is that 80+ have been IDENTIFIED... How many body bags were counted is a state secret....SadBadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01348733771308984062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-22128417156579910882017-07-05T12:32:05.870+01:002017-07-05T12:32:05.870+01:00TMO residents now is the time.
Once the taskforce...TMO residents now is the time.<br /><br />Once the taskforce takes over, contact them and express your existing fire safety concerns and years of disrepair. Tell them how incompetent they have been even prior to Grenfell. Also if anybody has info on their financial dealings, tell them! KCTMO must GO.even more nauseatednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-70833697763566043302017-07-05T12:27:03.953+01:002017-07-05T12:27:03.953+01:00Government sends in 'taskforce' to take ov...Government sends in 'taskforce' to take over the housing. I hope they will finish off KCTMO for good. Don't ever want to deal with them ever again. Everytime I read TMO Link Magagines (full of lies) or financial report, it makes me want to vomit. No other ornisation had caused such vile reaction in my life. THE CANCER MUST GO!Nauseatednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-35628709473187177432017-07-05T11:29:56.365+01:002017-07-05T11:29:56.365+01:00They are not calling them Commissioners, but the G...They are not calling them Commissioners, but the Government has just announced it's sending in its own people to run "certain departments." The Government thus acknowledges that RBKC cannot organise necessary relief needed due to a deadly fire organised by RBKC! The Council is sitting on £2,000 per RBKC man, woman and child in "available reserves" (i.e. immediately available funds in the bank or shares etc). RBKC is capable only of choosing an inadequate new Leader, who has already proved herself unable even of retaining a formerly well-organised system for bussing disabled children to and from their schools. All she's done so far in Leadership is to stand in the street muttering a timid little apology to the TV news. Shame on RBKC. Shame on Campbell.Gnatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-74991403951677659752017-07-05T10:48:09.578+01:002017-07-05T10:48:09.578+01:00Anyone still missing so much time after the fire m...Anyone still missing so much time after the fire must be presumed dead. They need to start releasing those figures. <br /><br />Yes, 80 people are known to have died. But how many are still missing and must be presumed dead? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-71108757808069921732017-07-05T10:36:21.916+01:002017-07-05T10:36:21.916+01:00There are four other tower blocks in close vicinit...There are four other tower blocks in close vicinity with a clear line of sight to the Academy roof ... <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-17725592848816454292017-07-05T10:15:56.866+01:002017-07-05T10:15:56.866+01:00The removed the fire breaks and installed Gas Pipe...The removed the fire breaks and installed Gas Pipes Instead. Turned the place into a cooker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-29014049028522931512017-07-05T08:57:24.543+01:002017-07-05T08:57:24.543+01:00Odious people. First trying to blame no sprinklers...Odious people. First trying to blame no sprinklers on the residents. Then saying there was a 'riot' at the Town Hall. The crowd walked into the Town Hall. It was the response from the Cabinet that made people angry. Which was effectively silence. Good excuse to shut the town hall down over the weekend so they could allegedly shred any evidence or delete any emails. Trying to save their skins whilst others perished. Lions led by Donkeys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-43381132299334693802017-07-05T08:53:39.071+01:002017-07-05T08:53:39.071+01:00Yes but Grenfell Tower was the fault of a long sta...Yes but Grenfell Tower was the fault of a long standing Conservative Administration . Rotten Borough . Lock them up and throw away the key. I can assure you if the powers' that be don't deliver justice, then funds have been raised for Private Prosecutions. Justice 4 Grenfell. You will not get away with this - we are here - we are many - we will see justice served like a bowl of cold porridge .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-77421940262965428562017-07-05T08:48:59.304+01:002017-07-05T08:48:59.304+01:00Commissioners need to be brought in. The whole Con...Commissioners need to be brought in. The whole Conservative group are nothing short of incompetent .Throughout the crisis not one of them stood up and took control. They do not have the ability. Giving council cabinet jobs to your school mates is folly. I can't believe NPB and RFM haven't stood down from the Council .Have they no shame .No conscience. I hope every morning when they look in the mirror, they take a long hard look at the death and destruction their administration has brought. No amount of bullying or arrogance can get this lot out of this one . We shall not forget what you did . Shame, Shame, Shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-526905554310979892017-07-05T08:42:38.511+01:002017-07-05T08:42:38.511+01:00The Moroccan Embassy know 42 Families are missing ...The Moroccan Embassy know 42 Families are missing that were in the tower . If they know that then RBKC know the death count will be closer to 200 . Locals know in their hearts the true figure. They know that these figures aren't being released , they are being treated worse than dogs. Ye shall reap the whirlwind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com