tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post7336271220512818316..comments2024-03-28T19:46:33.269+00:00Comments on FTHN: From the Hornets Nest: CLLR COCKELL AND MR DONALD CAMERONUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-5688014092088525562014-04-07T16:46:53.765+01:002014-04-07T16:46:53.765+01:00I am sure that my very good friend Merrick, would ...I am sure that my very good friend Merrick, would never dream of actually taking all the excessive ammounts he was paid for himself, and am sure he contributed most of it to charitable causes. And of course, charity begins at home. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-82760160348528391502014-04-07T14:29:30.207+01:002014-04-07T14:29:30.207+01:00Speaking for three minutes, or any other length of...Speaking for three minutes, or any other length of time, makes no difference. The decision has been decided beforehand at the Chairman's pre meeting. It is black theater. The pathetic Cllr Warwick exercising power. Thank goodness Warwick was not a resident of Berlin in the 1940'sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-3872906912949135252014-04-07T14:20:34.850+01:002014-04-07T14:20:34.850+01:00The 3 minute rule is believed to be illegal. The K...The 3 minute rule is believed to be illegal. The Kensington Society is taking Counsel's opinion about thisKensington Society Membernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-70765802865019564442014-04-07T13:32:16.117+01:002014-04-07T13:32:16.117+01:00Thank you sir. You speak from knowledge and experi...Thank you sir. You speak from knowledge and experience. The answer to all this is another question. Who benefits? To which the answer is, follow the money.<br /><br />You have answered my query. You describe the way RBKC planning committee meetings are routinely conducted as "dishonest" and "corrupt." By definition, corruption is unlawful. So it's time residents wrote to Mr Holgate, RBKC's Chief Executive drawing his attention to this most serious matter.<br /><br />By the way, until recently 2 objectors were allowed 3 minutes each for every application. That 6 minutes was recently reduced to 3 minutes in total.Blueberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-26314163743292802592014-04-07T12:56:14.839+01:002014-04-07T12:56:14.839+01:00It seems the Dame is really getting to you.....!!!...It seems the Dame is really getting to you.....!!!FRIEND OF THE DAMEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-6433453032464736102014-04-07T12:54:49.331+01:002014-04-07T12:54:49.331+01:00This has been a very enlightening blog. There is n...This has been a very enlightening blog. There is no reason why there should not be an "open vote" at Planning Meetings. Councillors should listen to the evidence, hear objectors, read the papers,and then come to an individual decision. The Chairman should manage the contributions, seek points of clarity/explanation and then go around each Councillor and asks for his or her opinion. And that should be the result.<br /><br />I once attended a Planning Applications Committee and was surprised to observe two things. First, the tired look on Officers and Councillors faces when objectors were called to speak for their three minutes. And second, The Chairman (Cllr Warwick) started the summing up by indicating his vote and then asked Committee Members for their vote. This is unheard of behaviour for a Chairman. His job is to draw out the opinion of members and find the common ground. Anything else is an <br />abuse of process. Quite extraordinary that such corruption has become so entrenched. But this blog explains it all. Decisions are fixed before meetings and the meetings themselves are a charade. What s the point of wasting public money on this scale? What is the point of hoodwinking residents on this scale? What is the reason for such base dishonesty?Retired Chief Executivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-42924905755617054242014-04-07T12:10:57.544+01:002014-04-07T12:10:57.544+01:00This is the 37th comment on this thread. Perhaps a...This is the 37th comment on this thread. Perhaps a record for the Hornet and certainly an indication of the scale of residents' anger at what passes for a planning system in the Very Rotten Borough. <br /><br />RBKC tory councillors are routinely whipped to vote on each case, before committee meetings. So every year thousands of residents are denied due process. Presumably such a practice is unlawful. Blueberrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-37822675438533858872014-04-07T12:08:01.007+01:002014-04-07T12:08:01.007+01:00Cllr Dent Coad (Labour) loves to blog. She runs he...Cllr Dent Coad (Labour) loves to blog. She runs her own blog and spends hours every day feeding it with tripe.The style is identical to the trash that she also throws up on the Hornet. Dent is a compulsive blogger - on her own blog and in the closet on the Hornet. But now she has been exposedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-59583288383576197862014-04-07T11:34:18.710+01:002014-04-07T11:34:18.710+01:00"BECOME" --- No always has been"BECOME" --- No always has been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-49644593750539089352014-04-07T10:58:22.996+01:002014-04-07T10:58:22.996+01:00Why waste time and money on a meeting if the decis...Why waste time and money on a meeting if the decisions are decided before the meeting? Am I missing something?Confusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-54334537790736219342014-04-07T10:56:50.010+01:002014-04-07T10:56:50.010+01:00Tory democracy in Hornton Street sucksTory democracy in Hornton Street sucksMuppetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-76054287596854746682014-04-07T10:55:04.037+01:002014-04-07T10:55:04.037+01:00Well said Dame! The Planning Committee could take ...Well said Dame! The Planning Committee could take a massive step towards democracy by abandoning the practice of the Chairman's pre meeting for Tory Councillors to decide how they should vote at the meeting. Why not let the Councillors hear the arguments, including objectors, and make up their own minds at the meeting. Why on earth should the whip be applied to planning?? It is not a party political matterSloane Square Veterannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-17217009088242947262014-04-07T10:05:50.900+01:002014-04-07T10:05:50.900+01:00Your plaintive cry is noted....and of course, reje...Your plaintive cry is noted....and of course, rejected. If anything, the Dame is an old fashioned Tory. She holds to values no longer core to the Tory Party. <br />Your silly protestations that the Dame's sacred organ is written by the admirable Emma Dent Coad exist only in your bizarre mind. The lady has more than enough to do serving her ward....something, perhaps you might focus upon, rather than spending council meetings looking after your share portfolio.<br />If the truth be told there are a number of Conservative councillors who believe that you and your puerile antics bring this council into disrepute. They are honourable and hard working and are correct in thinking you are slightly unhinged.<br />Were Labour in control the Hornet would be equally vociferous in attacking them if they behaved in the same way.However, they are not and thus have no power. <br />Rather than behaving like a clown why not do more to sort out the democratic deficiencies made so apparent in the way the Planning Dept operates?HornetsNesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03986293957148642699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-43271242461144590522014-04-07T09:33:20.761+01:002014-04-07T09:33:20.761+01:00Ninety percentof this blog has ben written by Labo...Ninety percentof this blog has ben written by Labour Councillor Emma Dent Coad. The Hornet has become a Labour organAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-44534117165570423052014-04-06T21:56:52.443+01:002014-04-06T21:56:52.443+01:00In four short years the Hornet and the feared Dame...In four short years the Hornet and the feared Dame have become a force for good in Hornton Street. The old girl has achieved more than the Labour opposition has in 50 years and put fear into the heads of the rotten Councillors - of whom there are currently too manyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-13827269297711901312014-04-06T19:02:54.753+01:002014-04-06T19:02:54.753+01:00What would we do without the Dame?What would we do without the Dame?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-3772010694819624122014-04-06T18:25:26.745+01:002014-04-06T18:25:26.745+01:00Three cheers for the Dame. Her influence grows by ...Three cheers for the Dame. Her influence grows by the day. Maybe sanity and common sense will some day return to the Rotten BoroughOwlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-10360607861642074262014-04-06T13:28:50.100+01:002014-04-06T13:28:50.100+01:00Wasp is correct. Conservative members of the plann...Wasp is correct. Conservative members of the planning committee are instructed before meetings on how to vote. They do so like the sheep they are. Only on the rarest occasions does one of them dare break ranks. <br /><br />It is equally true that planning permission is routinely manipulated to reward certain applicants while punishing critics. The system is corrupt.Gnatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-22011917771867724682014-04-06T09:36:35.630+01:002014-04-06T09:36:35.630+01:00Anyone who has paid salaries knows that take home ...Anyone who has paid salaries knows that take home pay is only the start. The true cost includes additions such as pension, health and so on. Typically these costs account for an extra 30% of pay. Cllr Cockell's "trough" of £120k take home pay from the public purse was costing taxpayers £175k every year.Real World Personnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-32640200908876648742014-04-06T08:38:17.131+01:002014-04-06T08:38:17.131+01:00I know when I am shafted. But it is such a regular...I know when I am shafted. But it is such a regular happening in K&C and I am so busy working hard to pay the school fees, that I am starting not to notice.Muppetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-6087165547427349332014-04-06T08:33:30.919+01:002014-04-06T08:33:30.919+01:00Pigs will fly before Cllr Warwick puts anything st...Pigs will fly before Cllr Warwick puts anything straight. Hopefully the reptile will be dust after the 7th MayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-987734815183987612014-04-06T08:13:39.760+01:002014-04-06T08:13:39.760+01:00Calm down Matthew....Calm down Matthew....PALMER. THE FRIEND OF PERVERTS LAMONT AND PHELPSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-67577856088004981172014-04-06T07:29:38.426+01:002014-04-06T07:29:38.426+01:00Drivel. Pure drivel on the Hornet.Drivel. Pure drivel on the Hornet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-7746426931125184932014-04-06T07:28:47.401+01:002014-04-06T07:28:47.401+01:00The Chairman of the Planning Committee, Cllr Warwi...The Chairman of the Planning Committee, Cllr Warwick, needs to do his job properly and remove Cllr Cockell from the entire proceedin of this meeting. Councillors are quick to mouth the words when an agenda item comes up "I declare an interest" but this is often a cynical manipulation of process. For those who do not know it, the way that the Planning Committee works is this. The Chairman has a pre meeting of the Tory group immediately before the meeting and they decide how to vote. Discussion at the Committee is irrelevant. Three minute statements from objectors who choose to attend and speak are irrelevant - just a sop to unsuspecting sheep. Results are pre determined. In the circumstances, if Cllr Cockell is a member of the committee and takes part in the pre determining decision process, it is then a corruption for him to say at the committee "I declare an interest and will not vote".<br /><br />If this analysis is incorrect then Cllr Warwick has the opportunity to blog and put us straight.WASPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1690720220183337557.post-66183425752699287912014-04-05T23:46:11.660+01:002014-04-05T23:46:11.660+01:00I understand the Dame has had a word in Pooter'...I understand the Dame has had a word in Pooter's ear. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com